Episode 654

Will Points-based Currency Potentially Usurp Cash as King? (654)

Published on: 25th March, 2025

The Wiser Loyalty podcast series is created in partnership between Let’s Talk Loyalty and The Wise Marketer™.

Throughout 2024, Wise Marketer Group's (WMG) CEO, Bill Hanifin, and CMO, Aaron Dauphinee, shared their insights on loyalty constructs drawn from the Loyalty Academy's™ Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional™ (CLMP™) curriculum.

In 2025 we are shifting from an academic focus to seek out insights from practitioners of the trade, such as our CLMPs, and those leading from the C-Suite. Twice a month, we will bring you an interview with a C-level executive or CLMP who has transformed strategy into practical application to generate strong business results from customer loyalty.

This week's episode has Aaron speaking with one of our industry's well known loyalty leaders when it comes to loyalty finance and loyalty strategy, Evert de Boer.  Evert is the Managing Partner at On Point Loyalty, a global advisory firm exclusively niche to loyalty finance and strategy, as well as he is the CEO at Fidivo, which has built the first off-the-shelf loyalty program financial tool analysis. 

He shares an executive style summary of his second published book "Loyalty Programs and the Currency Effect" and then flies into his perspective on loyalty in the travel sector, particularly given his expertise in aviation.

Hosted by Aaron Dauphinee

Show Notes:

1)  Evert de Boer

2) On Point Loyalty

3) Fidivo

4) Loyalty Programs and the Currency Effect: A Comprehensive Guide to Realizing the Power of Points - By Evert de Boer &  Xiao Yao Chin

5) A Perfect Spy: A Novel

6) Connemara: A Novel 

7)  German Summer Book (but only available in Dutch)

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Let's Talk Loyalty
“Let’s Talk Loyalty” is an industry podcast for loyalty marketing professionals.

If you work in loyalty marketing, join us every week to learn the latest ideas and marketing insights from loyalty specialists around the world.

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Paula Thomas

Paula Thomas is the Founder and CEO of Let’s Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV

Paula Thomas is an award-winning podcaster who founded the “Let’s Talk Loyalty” podcast and business in 2019, and Loyalty TV in 2023.

She has over twenty-five years blue-chip marketing experience, including almost a decade leading consumer loyalty programmes in multiple sectors including telecommunications, the energy sector, banking and airline loyalty programmes.

She is from Ireland and lives in Dubai.

Paula is a former judge for the “International Loyalty Awards”, and the author of the book “Driving Loyalty in Convenience Retail”.

She holds an Executive MBA from Smurfit Business College, one of Ireland’s top universities, and is a “Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional”.