Episode 211

#211: Loyalty Programme Liability Modeling (Short Summary Show)

Published on: 19th April, 2022

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In this short summary show, "Let's Talk Loyalty" revisited an episode with Len Llaguno, founder of Kyros Insights. Len uses his professional training as an actuary to assess loyalty programmes not in terms of liability, but profitability and possibility.

We talked about why redemptions are such a signal of a strong programme and an investment in the company's long-term success.

Len also shared how brands should employ a "customer-first" mentality and also segment their customers to maximize the effectiveness of their loyalty programmes.

Show Notes:

1) Episode #76: Loyalty Programme Liability Management - Len Llaguno, Founder of Kyros Insights

2) Len Llaguno, founder of Kyros Insights

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Paula Thomas

Paula Thomas is the Founder and CEO of Let’s Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV.

Paula Thomas is an award-winning podcaster who founded the “Let’s Talk Loyalty” podcast and business in 2019, and Loyalty TV in 2023.

She has over twenty-five years blue-chip marketing experience, including almost a decade leading consumer loyalty programmes in multiple sectors including telecommunications, the energy sector, banking and airline loyalty programmes.

She is from Ireland and lives in Dubai.

Paula is a former judge for the “International Loyalty Awards”, and the author of the book “Driving Loyalty in Convenience Retail”.

She holds an Executive MBA from Smurfit Business College, one of Ireland’s top universities, and is a “Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional”.

In 2025, she was chosen as the International Loyalty Industry Personality of the Year.